This is part three, of a four part series. First we covered removal of the bottom bracket cartridge, which could apply to just about any model of mid drive.
M800 drive system MM G530.200 200w mid drive motor with DP C260.CAN display
Next we covered mating the battery connectors to the controller, which can help any new ebiker, even hubmotor customers. Part four will cover BBSHD customization of the programming, upgrading to the larger color dashboard, listing some desirable accessories, and several other items that I feel will dramatically improve the rider experience for all the new Bafang mid drive owners.
However, even people who are new to the bicycle game will likely be reassured once they see the pics of what is involved, and can tackle the install with more confidence.
This article assumes you have already read and seen the pictures from part-one click here and also part two click here. So…now we pick up where part two left off…. The bottom bracket BB of bicycles are made in several widths. The most common by far is a 68mm 2. You will occasionally find a 73mm, 83mm, mm, and mm. The mm 3. For a variety of reasons, I chose to mount a mm kit onto a mm wide bottom bracket, and I will take up the slack using Luna Cycles aluminum spacer rings.
Bafang enters the e-road market with new M800 motor
As you can see, back in part two we soldered a male XTS connector yellow onto the controller cable. Because I have decided to mount the motor inside the frame triangle, I had to grind away some of the fin material off of the shell, and I also had to bang a serious dent into the seat-tube in order to do that not recommended. For a normal installation, the motor sits in front of a straight downtube, and no modification to the drive or frame is necessary. Take the drive unit, and insert it into the bottom-bracket BB shell from the chain side.
The OD of the sleeve is Be careful not to ding any threads on the drive or the BB shell. The dust and scuffs in the pic are because this is the second time I installed it after the initial test run. If you look closely, this drive is marked W, and the controller can be adjusted to make it a street-legal PAS ebike, depending on your local laws.
Locate the retaining bracket and two bolts, which use a 5mm hex wrench. Notice the radial ridges pressed into the side of the bracket. These are designed to dig into the side of the BB shell edge, and hold the motor in place, instead of the drive rocking back and forth. Make sure these ridges face the bike when installing.
When the motor is applying power, it will try to pull up towards the downtube. These ridges only attempt to keep the weight of the motor from drooping down. Also, one of the factory threaded holes that the bolts go into was not deep enough. You can cut one of the bolts shorter, or add washers to one of them. I found a nut that was just a hair too large to thread on, and used it as a thick washer. It still left more than enough engaged threads to make a solid connection. In the pic above, one bolt has been tightened by a 5mm hex wrench, and the other bolt that requires some type of thick washer or spacer has not been tightened yet.
In the pic above, I have threaded-on the locking ring.
I spun it all the way down, and then I backed it off two full threads, in order to see how many spacers I will need.Some of the standout features include custom integrated batteries and motors, premium Shimano drive E systems, and lightweight carbon fiber models, one with the new compact Bafang motor. This conversation was filmed with a marketing representative from the company named Damo. It sounds like all of their hub motor electric bikes can be setup with a torque sensor or cadence sensor, to deliver a different ride experience.
This is unique in the world of ebikes, where choice is usually limited… Their proprietary mid-motor measures both torque and cadence together, for the most natural ride. In terms of sizing and colors, most models are limited to keep the price down, but some of the higher-end ones do come in multiple sizes.
I was really impressed with some of the smart wire management going on, how they used a rubber cover to make it easier to reach wires. I was told that every one of their ebikes would have bluetooth and work with a smartphone app that runs through a diagnostic checklist, so you know the status of everything.
Their dealer network in North America has been growing significantly. To run the forums, host the website, and travel, I charge a universal service fee for my reviews and in-depth videos like this. My goal is to be transparent and unbiased, this video and written forum post are not meant to be an endorsement. Because this video involved payment, I am labeling it as Sponsored source. It's all nice ebikes are evolving so fast but repair service from bike shops is not so great some even ban ebikes.
Cort, … Espire from iGo dhoud hit the market in February, can you get early review of it any time soon? Like in January, maybe, please? Fat tire bike on the igo website no fender available as a option. Off road bike would be nice to equip if a customer wants it. The charger attachment location is right where dirt, water and grime can get into it. Why don't the put in on top facing upwards.
So wait, IGo has a fat folding bike that looks exactly like my VeeGo non-folding fat bike sold by ridescoozy. I would love to see a review of the VeeGo folding and non-folding fat bikes and how they relateif at all, to the IGo bikes.
Anything under watts is a joke. In the Seattle area we have no flat ground. The size of the market that would like to continue biking as we get older past 55 is enormous. IGO definitely needs better visibility though. They are in my back yard and I had no idea they existed! Hopefully you can get to ride one of the bikes with the proprietary mid motor soon to let us know how it compares to the rest of the market Bosch, Brose, Shimano, Bafang in terms of noise, smoothness and power.
Nice video. I agree that the disclaimer is maybe a bit over the top. I would feel fully informed with a graphic that says "Paid review — see our website for details. Good looking new lineup. The founder says elsewhere that bikes will be available next February.
bafang max frame
That first bike, from the Aspire line, is my pick.You might have seen our review of the Cube Agree C Hybrid a couple of weeks back: these are bikes that are designed to be ridden a lot of the time with no assistance, with the motor kicking in for a bit of help away from the lights, and up the climbs.
And Bafang, who make an awful lot of motors, have decided they want a piece of the action. Enter the M system. The M is a reasonably standard mid motor, in that it replaces the bottom bracket and drives the cranks directly. There's no gearing between the cranks and the drive ring like there is with the higher end Bosch motors, so this is a system that can be used with a double chainring if you want to. But it stays in place; it's not removable like the Fazua Evation system used on the Cube. It's a light mid motor, though.
Most of the units on the market are between 2. Party this is down to the fact that it has a lower continuous power rating — W, rather than the EU-standard W — but it doesn't suffer in terms of torque, putting out a claimed 55Nm.
The battery is fairly small, at Wh, and designed to be integrated into the down tube. You might think that range would be an issue with such a small battery, but in reality a bike with a system like this is designed to be used under power only some of the time. The Cube has a Wh battery, so comparable to this, and that has lasted km rides with no problems, the motor helping a bit on the hills but not called into action on the flat. The system has been specifically designed to run with as little resistance as possible when not assisting, so you don't feel like you're working too hard when you're just using your legs.
The whole system, including the centrally-mounted screen and the remote for controlling the resistance, weighs a claimed 4. If accurate that's less than the Fazua system, and would mean that a subkg build for a road bike is realistic.
At the moment the lightest bikes are coming in at about We don't have any real idea of when this motor system is likely to be available; it's a model year product so it might be that we see it on some bikes at the Eurobike show in July, but that might be a bit early. Bafang mid motors haven't had a very big presence in the UK until now, although their cheaper hub motors are extensively used. This new system might make maunfacturers look more closely at their range, which includes a wide range of systems for all kinds of riding.Dual suspension bike converted to electric with 1000W Bafang motor 2
Dave lives at the top of a big hill and his office is at the bottom, so he's all in favour of a helping hand. Plus, e-bikes are fun! He's the editor of ebiketips and one of the founders of EBT's road cycling sister site, road. He used to work on Cycling Plus and What Mountain Bike back in the day, and he's a former mountain bike bog snorkelling World Champion.
E-MTB mid motor shoot out. Skip to main content.Product Details The Bafang mid-drive BBSHD w motor mounts in place of your bike's bottom bracket and replaces your bike's crankset and front derailleur if you have one. The Bafang BBSHD kit comes with all necessary parts to convert just about any bike must have mm bottom bracket to an electric bike except the battery!
The BBSHD watt motor kit is a high-performing, lightweight, quiet, fast, hill-climbing, well-engineered electric bike kit. Superior to hub motors, the mid drive motor kit feels just like a normal bike when pedaling since it can completely freewheel. The motor includes pedal assist sensors PASso you can choose the power level of motor assistance that you would like while pedaling.
Also, you can always use the throttle in order to engage the motor if you want to take a break from pedaling! Please note, the throttle is limited to the Pedal Assist Level you are in.
Technically speaking it is only for off-road and private property use. Our W BBS02 motors meet the power needs and wants of the majority of riders.
Bafang BBSHD Mid Drive Ebike Kit
It is your responsibility as the rider to follow applicable local and federal traffic and ebike laws. Consider yourselves forewarned. Please visit our FAQ Page for information on how to measure your bike's bottom bracket. We highly recommend purchasing the set of 15 Spacers with your kit to help with proper fitment and installation on your specific bottom bracket.
Watch our step-by-step Installation Video here. The Bafang motor conversion kit installation is a DIY project that requires no specialty expertise — simply install the parts, plug in the connectors and zip-tie the cables! If you are not interested in performing the install yourself, simply stop by your local bike shop, and they should easily be able to install the BBS02 kit for you.
All the tools that you will need for the install are typically found in most bike tool kits. The only tools that you will need for the install are: 1. A 15mm wrench or pedal wrench to remove your bike's pedals. The appropriate bottom bracket tool to remove your specific bike's bottom bracket. A chain tool to remove your bike's chain. A standard spanner wrench to tighten the lockrings.
Allen wrench es and a Phillip's head screwdriver to tighten the crank arms, sprocket, display, throttle and brake levers. No specialty tools are necessary! Please note that this kit does not include any tools. Customer Care Note: We always recommend storing ebikes indoors or under cover as electronic components are susceptible to water damage.
All of the kit parts are water resistant, but components such as the display are not waterproof. Shipping Time. Products typically ship within business days after the order is placed. We don't want you to have to wait long to start enjoying your new ebike lifestyle! Delivery times will vary based upon where you live.Product Details The Bafang mid-drive BBSHD w motor mounts in place of your bike's bottom bracket and replaces your bike's crankset and front derailleur if you have one.
The Bafang BBSHD kit comes with all necessary parts to convert just about any bike must have mm bottom bracket to an electric bike except the battery! The BBSHD watt motor kit is a high-performing, lightweight, quiet, fast, hill-climbing, well-engineered electric bike kit. Superior to hub motors, the mid drive motor kit feels just like a normal bike when pedaling since it can completely freewheel.
The motor includes pedal assist sensors PASso you can choose the power level of motor assistance that you would like while pedaling. Also, you can always use the throttle in order to engage the motor if you want to take a break from pedaling! Please note, the throttle is limited to the Pedal Assist Level you are in. Technically speaking it is only for off-road and private property use.
Our W BBS02 motors meet the power needs and wants of the majority of riders. It is your responsibility as the rider to follow applicable local and federal traffic and ebike laws. Consider yourselves forewarned.
Please visit our FAQ Page for information on how to measure your bike's bottom bracket. We highly recommend purchasing the set of 15 Spacers with your kit to help with proper fitment and installation on your specific bottom bracket. Watch our step-by-step Installation Video here. The Bafang motor conversion kit installation is a DIY project that requires no specialty expertise — simply install the parts, plug in the connectors and zip-tie the cables!
If you are not interested in performing the install yourself, simply stop by your local bike shop, and they should easily be able to install the BBS02 kit for you. All the tools that you will need for the install are typically found in most bike tool kits. The only tools that you will need for the install are: 1. A 15mm wrench or pedal wrench to remove your bike's pedals. The appropriate bottom bracket tool to remove your specific bike's bottom bracket. A chain tool to remove your bike's chain.
A standard spanner wrench to tighten the lockrings.Micah Toll. Most retail electric bicycles focus on mountain bike or hybrid style designs, leaving few options for those seeking sleek electric road bikes.
But that could be about to change, as Chinese electric bicycle parts manufacturer Bafang announced a series of new mid-drive motors and batteries at the China International Bicycle and Motor Fair in Shanghai. The entire package weighs less than 9. Bafang, also known as 8fun, has designed the motor with exercise-conscious road bikers in mind. The M system includes 10 user-selectable assist levels to provide a range of power from a significant boost down to just a light tailwind.
However, unlike more powerful e-bikes that can provide constant pedal assist, the M is designed to provide assist only during acceleration and on uphill climbs. Essentially, the motor aims to flatten out terrain and help the rider get up to constant speed, at which point the rider takes over to provide the rest of the pedaling power. However, the upside of lower power is that the smaller Wh battery should be plenty for even long rides due to the lower power draw.
Bafang claims that the Wh battery should last anywhere from 31 to 93 miles 50 to kmdepending on the assist level. Bafang has also tuned the motor for different markets, with a As most road cyclists can easily surpass Rather, the M mid-drive system is designed to allow electric bicycle designers to incorporate the diminutive motor and battery directly into bicycle frames for a fully integrated design.
This drive is intended for the European market due to its Like the M, it is intended to be integrated directly into the frame design, but is rated for higher power and for use with higher capacity battery packs.
The M is best suited for manufacturers developing hybrid city or touring bikes, as it can better handle the rigors of urban riding.
Bafang also unveiled the M and M systems, which are even more powerful and rated at between to W. These motors are also capable of much higher torque, rated at between 90 to Nm. Lastly, Bafang unveiled three new batteries: two F-series batteries of and Wh that can be designed into the downtube of a bicycle frame and removed from either the top or bottom of the frame, and a new high-capacity 1 kWh pack.
While all of these products will be great assets to OEM e-bike manufacturers, the M system is especially interesting. There are already many mid-drive systems out there from big names like BoschYamaha and Shimano, but most of these are designed for higher power. With that higher power comes increased weight.
At just 4. This extremely lightweight new drive system can open the door for some exciting new electric road bikes as manufacturers decide how they want to incorporate the M system into their lineups.Luna Cycle is the worlds premier BBSHD dealer and do our best to offer the best options and support on this equipment.
The BBSHD put out nm of force so much torque that you can stay in one gear and not shift as much as you would in the smaller drive. This kit is for bottom bracket sizes of the most common sizes 68mm and mm fat bike.
Other BB sizes can be made to fit with our spacer kit. Read up about dealing with intrusive chainstays article on fitting here The BBSHD heralds a new age of factory installed mid-drives. Unlike most other factory mid drives the BBSHD is designed to be mounted onto almost any bicycle currently manufactured. You can mate the BBSHD to any bike with a bottom bracket that is anywhere from 68mm to a much wider mm fat bike.
We offer spacers and adapters on this page and our parts section so that you can make your BBSHD fit for almost any bottom bracket. If in doubt order the next size up and our spacers will help you make the kit fit iif doing so order extra spacers Install it on anything and ride it anywhere.
With the proper gearing the BBSHD will easily climb stairs, go well over 30mph on the flats and much, much faster down hills. The BBSHD excels at singletrack riding article on singletrack testing here as well as soft sand article on soft sand testing and works best with the Lunacycle Eclipse ring independently reviewed here or the Mighty-Mini chainring available here. The stock 46T steel chainring on this kit is very heavy and has too many teeth for trailriding, although it works fine for commuting.
Completely redesigned with thicker windings, giant heat dissipating fins and a powerful 12 FET controller. There is nothing else like it on the market.
We are proud to be the first dealer in the world to have this drive in stock. We are shipping it with the controller hot rod programmed so not only can you get pedal assist when you want you can also get full throttle when you want it. Our drives come programmed for w. If you do choose watt model, we suggest you also buy a programming cable so that you can change the firmware back to make it legal for street use. The Bafang drive mounts in place of your current bike's bottom bracket and replaces your bike's crank set and front derailler if you have one.
To pick which motor works right for you: please see this guide. For most applications you need the standard size 68mmand can even go a few millimeters over the usual limit of 73mm with standard by using loctite on the axle instead of the second lockring.
If using a mm fatbike motor on a regular bike 73mm some additional spacers may be needed and can be bought here. Many people have found that the Bafang can actually be mounted to many types of trikes, which can be fun since many trikes are not good candidates for hub motor kits.
Maybe you have an old donor bike laying around you want to convert, or maybe you are wide open to which bike to buy and install this kit on. If you are also shopping for a bike to install this kit, that is perfect.
We recommend you pick a bike that is known to be compatible with this drive and has no known issues. Ideally a build report has been written on our builder forum so that you can follow step by step someone elses building steps. Which Options?
Here is some help picking which options you have available during check out. Battery Choices. This is a 30amp Kit and includes everything you need to install the kit on most bikes except for battery which you can add at discounted price all the batteries listed in the add as add ons are excellent choices for this kit.
We have picked our most popular batteries as kit options and have made them available at a discounted price. However you are not stuck to just these choices.
All of our 48v see here and 52v see here batteries are compatible with this kit as well if your looking for something larger in capacity. Battery dimensions are on each separate battery listing. We highly recommend making a cardboard mockup of the battery before purchasing to physically see if it will fit in your frame.
The Gearsensor. Now with optional Gear Sensor